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  1. Observium
  2. OBS-1633

PAN devices are only using PAN-COMMON not all PAN provided mibs

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    • Bug
    • Resolution: Not A Bug
    • Minor
    • None
    • Professional Edition
    • Poller
    • Operating system PanOS 6.1.1 (1.0) through PanOS 7.0
      Observium 0.15.12.7370 (rolling)

    Description

      Palo Alto networks uses private mibs to expose SNMP data so the OSPF mib it is trying to use is incorrect. I see that there are other mibs listed in the paloalto directory but do not see them listed under the devices settings.

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          [OBS-1633] PAN devices are only using PAN-COMMON not all PAN provided mibs

          Adam - still the same situation with the latest 7.0.3 PANOS release and the latest MIB's. Negligible useful info coming out of them. Even less from VM appliances.

          Kyle - we run Panorama too, and a snmpwalk shows that Panorama doesn't appear to provide any additional information about managed devices, at least not via SNMP. All the "enterprise" MIB's appear to expose are capabilities/attributes/etc specific to hardware appliances. VM's are not returning anything beyond the basic info from PAN-COMMON-MIB.

          colin.stubbs Colin Stubbs added a comment - Adam - still the same situation with the latest 7.0.3 PANOS release and the latest MIB's. Negligible useful info coming out of them. Even less from VM appliances. Kyle - we run Panorama too, and a snmpwalk shows that Panorama doesn't appear to provide any additional information about managed devices, at least not via SNMP. All the "enterprise" MIB's appear to expose are capabilities/attributes/etc specific to hardware appliances. VM's are not returning anything beyond the basic info from PAN-COMMON-MIB.

          Yes. I spent quite a lot of time trying to support extra stuff on PanOS, but they don't make it easy at all. Last I checked they were missing the ability to collect even basic things, like memory usage.

          adama Adam Armstrong added a comment - Yes. I spent quite a lot of time trying to support extra stuff on PanOS, but they don't make it easy at all. Last I checked they were missing the ability to collect even basic things, like memory usage.
          awesomazing Kyle Kot added a comment -

          Thanks, not trying to be difficult I really do like observium a lot.

          awesomazing Kyle Kot added a comment - Thanks, not trying to be difficult I really do like observium a lot.

          Ahh. No. That would probably be even more complex for even less gain.

          adama Adam Armstrong added a comment - Ahh. No. That would probably be even more complex for even less gain.
          awesomazing Kyle Kot added a comment -

          Panorama is like PANs controller you can link all of your PAN devices in to it and view state information / configurations / other device information sort of like rancid

          awesomazing Kyle Kot added a comment - Panorama is like PANs controller you can link all of your PAN devices in to it and view state information / configurations / other device information sort of like rancid

          I don't know what Panorama is.

          adama Adam Armstrong added a comment - I don't know what Panorama is.
          awesomazing Kyle Kot added a comment -

          Is there any plan to include data from Panorama to provide other information from the PANs?

          awesomazing Kyle Kot added a comment - Is there any plan to include data from Panorama to provide other information from the PANs?

          You can just ignore all of those. PanOS is particularly poor in its SNMP support, so a lot of things we expect to exist by default don't exist.

          adama Adam Armstrong added a comment - You can just ignore all of those. PanOS is particularly poor in its SNMP support, so a lot of things we expect to exist by default don't exist.
          awesomazing Kyle Kot added a comment -

          Yes it is stupid that they do not support the industry standards but it is also not just OSPF that is broken all of the following error out when polling.
          BGP4-MIB
          EtherLike-MIB
          IP-MIB
          OSPF-MIB
          Q-BRIDGE-MIB
          SNMP-FRAMEWORK-MIB
          SNMPv2-MIB
          TCP-MIB
          UDP-MIB

          I understand that from your perspective this is not a bug because they are not doing as they are expected however from a customer perspective this is not working as we would expect it to. We rely heavily on PAN throughout our infrastructure and having the information for these devices would be very helpful. Also your page for supported products lists PAN as supported which would lead me again as a customer to think that it would work correctly with your product.

          awesomazing Kyle Kot added a comment - Yes it is stupid that they do not support the industry standards but it is also not just OSPF that is broken all of the following error out when polling. BGP4-MIB EtherLike-MIB IP-MIB OSPF-MIB Q-BRIDGE-MIB SNMP-FRAMEWORK-MIB SNMPv2-MIB TCP-MIB UDP-MIB I understand that from your perspective this is not a bug because they are not doing as they are expected however from a customer perspective this is not working as we would expect it to. We rely heavily on PAN throughout our infrastructure and having the information for these devices would be very helpful. Also your page for supported products lists PAN as supported which would lead me again as a customer to think that it would work correctly with your product.

          To be clear, the "bug" here is that Palo Alto don't support the industry standard OSPF-MIB.

          adama Adam Armstrong added a comment - To be clear, the "bug" here is that Palo Alto don't support the industry standard OSPF-MIB.

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            landy Mike Stupalov
            awesomazing Kyle Kot
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